enviroman replied: "I don't think we're totally Commie yet; but we're certainly moving in that direction. A little communal contribution is and always has been good for the Republic, we just can't let it get out of hand. The New Deal and other sweeping Socialistic packages of programs will, I'm afraid, one day be the undoing of our great nation. When the have-nots figure out that they can vote in people who will steal from the haves and give to them for nothing, then we are truly done as a nation!"
45 cal replied: "We wont allow the Libs to sellout the USA so they can go first>"
right on replied: "You sound like the typical red neck who doesn't know socialism from a hole in the ground.
Socialism in its best form takes care of people by spending money on programs that benefit it's citizens from their tax dollars.
Your country only spends tax dollars on covert and overt operations to interfere in other countries well being...and all this at the expense of debt to the tune of 9 trillion and counting and people dying for lack of health care..
Have a nice war...."
Insensitively Honest replied: "Education system , is nothing to brag about ,
Federal interference and grants for college tuition is why it is so high now ,
Minimum wage is a joke
Workplace safty laws , limit company liabilty , and does not protect many workers.
Workers Comp is a dirty joke ,
Unemployment is so hard to get it is not worth the time to try ,
Social Security takes forever to get and they keep raising the age of retirement in hopes of most people dying before collections
Social Security Disabilty, I know plenty who get it , but it took them two years of waiting to collect , and they get the small check only after they lose everything they had while waiting to collect..
Medicare ,and Medicaid = lower quality health care , the only time you get treated worse is if you are on workers comp.
Progressive taxes , how can paying more for less be called progress
Laws against Coporate fraud , which protect investers like Hillary Clinton .
Public Transportation , which is OK if you live in a city , and mostly wine-o's ride the buses , they stink , and they are nasty
Public Streets , getting worse and we pay more to use recycled materieals that do not last as long , so again we pay more for less ..
Public utlities suck
Public Housing is for the most part worse than the projects ..
If all of this is what liberals give us , I want my GD money back ..
And as far as the National Debt , what is going to hurt the economy more , the 9 trillion National Debt or the large defaults in America's 2. 5 trillion dollar consumer debt....
With Hillary ,and her plans , your income tax will be 45% additional to what they take now , her simplified tax plan is doing away with refunds , deductions , and credits , you will file to see if you owe anymore taxes ...I for one can do better keeping half my income , than the Government can do by taking it ( I already have thanks to tax cuts by a non liberal ) , and as far as her tax the rich thing , that effects everyone who makes 100 grand plus ...it will not effect politicians because the majority of their wealth is tied up in these so called blind trusts"
what is the student loan act 1990 about? a clear and brief definition what the act is about
The definition of work is ? I'm hearing a lot of people complaining that "poor"people are lazy and don't want to work. That you should be able to keep the efforts of your hard work even if they are excessive, no matter what, no matter who is suffering. My question is: Working class Joe works his behind off as a
landscaper, he works 40+ a week at his own business that he started;his parents were too poor to put him through school and he wasn't able to get enough loans to graduate. He is struggling to make ends meet and has no health insurance, plus he has to pay for his student loans and his equipment for his business. He pays his bills but is finding that he doesn't have enough leftover to buy groceries and gas. Joe business man had a parent put him through a very nice school, he joined a business that was just starting out in the 80's, it took off & he invested his profits in wall street. He watched his money work for him, making more money off of itself; he made his first million at the age of 34 and retired at the age of 37. (I know both Joes) Who is the harder worker? As a free market, is it ok to watch Joe #1 starve while Joe 2 swims in his swimming pool?
Tanya W replied: "Work is something you do to earn money. Yeah, a little luck is involved (like Joe 2's case) but if you have the resources and time, you can be successful. However, it is NOT okay to watch Joe 1 starve. Being conservative is okay, to an extent. You need to help people in order to see others thrive. It's not all about having a fancier Hummer or having the biggest house.."
what is considered a low-income family in BC? i need to know for whether i'm eligible for student loans, and i keep getting sent in circles around the govt sites just looking for even a general definition. Can anyone help? If you happen to know how much student loans will pay for that'd be great too =)
BC is British Columbia -_-
Given cons broad definition of socialism, do they realize that America is already socialist? Cons are always calling libs and Democrats socialist, even communist. If liberals/Democrats are socialists, then America is socialist. So many of our policies have long since become laws. See, it's not black or white, either capitalist or socialist. Most nations instead have a mixed economy.
We have public schools for the masses, state owned and subsidized universities, student grants, subsidized loans, GI BIlls, job training, 40 hour work weeks, overtime pay, minimum wage, workman's compensation, unemployment insurance, work place safety laws, social security and medicare for the elderly, medicaid for the poor, food sanitation standards, laws against false advertisement and labeling, environmental protection laws, force banks to insure with the federal government, regulate the stock market, public housing and food stamps for the poor, government grants in research and development, state owned and controlled armed forces, public transportation, public health utilities, etc, etc.
In a purely capitalist country, the government would not intervene to help the little guy. In a purely capitalist country, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It's a law of the jungle, big fish eat small fish, kind of world.
Imagine the NFL without the draft or the salary cap. The winning teams would recieve more revenues and be able to keep all their best players and buy all the best new ones. That would lead to them winning more games. Eventually only a handful of teams would remain competitive. Laws and programs that help the little guy keep the whole field competitive.
Yes Billy,
Eliminating FDR's New Deal program, the GI BIl for soldiers, is going to give us more freedom.
Cons idea of freedom is giving the people more freedom to be economically abused and cheated by those more powerful then they are. Liberals believe in expanding freedom where it counts, social freedom, the right to make your own social decisions.
Trouble,
People do have the freedom to choose their own school. They can take their children to private schools or move to another school district.
On the women at home part, liberals believe women have the right to work or stay in the kitchen. Just because we do not believe in traditional roles for women, does not mean we want to ban those traditions.
Another thing. It is not the goal of liberals to make people dependent on the government. The goal on economics is to use the government to help people help themselves. There will always be a few people who can rise above poverty without any help (besides that from the government), but you increase the odds of success by offering public schools for the masses regardless of social class, state subsidized universities, student grants, subsidized loans, GI Bills, job training.